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		<title>So You Think You Want a Blogsite&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 01:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I used to have a porn problem.  No, not the kind of problem you are thinking of right now.  Instead, I had a porn spam problem.  Hundreds, indeed thousands, of comments with links to pornography sites were attaching themselves to this blogsite.
Nor was I alone in this attack.  Apparently Real Live [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/virus.jpg" alt="Computer porn spam" /></span>I used to have a porn problem.  No, not the kind of problem you are thinking of right now.  Instead, I had a porn <em>spam</em> problem.  Hundreds, indeed thousands, of comments with links to pornography sites were attaching themselves to this blogsite.</p>
<p>Nor was I alone in this attack.  Apparently <a href="http://www.reallivepreacher.com/">Real Live Preacher </a>had much the same problem.  His site was so infiltrated with comments generated by porn sites that he just about permanently shut down his archives.  You see, the porn spammers don&#8217;t attack recent posts.  They go for the older posts that you are less likely to notice and maintain.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know exactly how it works, but such sites have programmatic worms that travel through the internet.  These &#8220;worms&#8221; then find websites (using a means I cannot say—perhaps a stray comment or word on your site attracts them) and then create comments on blog posts.  These comments contain links back to their sites.<br />
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The purpose?  I asked that very question to my previous host provider.  He told me the purpose is to increase their websites&#8217; priority and visibility on Google and Yahoo searches in the internet.  Those search engines have their own variety of &#8220;worms&#8221; that search the internet and make indexes and references within the Google programs.   That is how when you search for keywords such as &#8220;preterist&#8221; or &#8220;heretic,&#8221; a recent column from my blog-post may appear, perhaps just hours after I write it.   I don&#8217;t submit this article to Google or Yahoo.  Instead, their programs find my site and update their records on their own.</p>
<p>Well, the more references to your own website on other websites, the higher your website will appear on the Google or Yahoo (or Bing, to remain current) becomes.  Therefore, the porn sites prey on unprotected websites, attaching their comments with their nefarious links back to their own sites. These links on other site have the effect of increasing their profile—albeit, illegitimately—on the web. This increased profile brings up their sites faster on the web for those people search for such things.  And they have the added bonus of linking in unaware people from other sites, who once they get there may linger.</p>
<p>I once wrote a post entitled &#8220;<a href="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/2005/10/13/the-porn-culture-and-teens/">The Porn Culture Takes Over</a>.&#8221;  I have a feeling that title drew in those programmatic links like sharks sensing blood in the water.   I don&#8217;t regret the article, but I do regret the results.  </p>
<p>So I set out to clear out the problem as best I could.  Unlike Real Live Preacher, I did not want to shut down my archives.  Nor did I want anyone clicking on a link on my site and ending up at a porn advertisement or worse.  First, I loaded a Spam filter (actually two) on my site that would do its best to at least slow down the infiltration of degenerated comments to a trickle.  Then I set out on the ugly task of taking out the old comments one by one.</p>
<p>At first it was easy.  The porn comments were computer generated and were basically filled with descriptions of lewd acts. I could sent them into the spam filters with an easy click of the mouse.  Then as I got to the more recent &#8220;additions&#8221; it became harder.  The comments were more generic and did not reference anything related to sexual acts. They were statements more like &#8220;Thanks for this post. I really helped me to rethink this issue.&#8221;  Even later comments even somehow integrated words from my original post within them.  The only way I could really be certain that the comment was false was when I examined the link within the comment it was to something like sexywomenforviewing (dot) com or something obviously tied to a more lustful reality. So to those comments as well I consigned to Spam Hades.</p>
<p>Then the links became less obvious.  (Were these guys tracking what I was doing?  It almost felt like that, though probably they were fighting millions of bloggers doing the same housekeeping chores.)  Now the links went to perhaps older sites that were bought out by the porn dogs.  When you linked to those sites, they automatically forwarded you to the nefarious movies and pictures, some instantly running when you got there!  These had such innocent links like &#8220;wtbsradio (dot) com&#8221; or even more innocuous sites.  As I said, pornographers buy out legitimate sites that lose their domain name either through death of the owner or negligence or loss of interest.  They then put in imbedded links on these former legitimate sites to theirs.  Even Disney and the White House have been victimized by this tactic.</p>
<p>And in this case, the <em>only way to know is to test out the link by clicking on it</em>.  Now that was a really ugly business. Then I found BlueCoat&#8217;s K9 Web Protection and that helped me for awhile.   It would block the website after I clicked on the link and not let it show.  Then it let me know I almost went to a porn site.  Unfortunately, after that, my company upgraded their  Citrix programs and they conflicted with K9 so I had to uninstall it.  Luckily by then, by web-cleaning (literally) was almost finished.</p>
<p>Now I think between my Spam Filters and my increasing ability to spot a sham comment that gets through, I have my website back down to a maximum PG rating.  For those who in the past clicked on comments and went where they did not desire to go, my sincere apologies.  I am doing my best to ensure it does not happen again.  I such a link does occur for you, please report it to me immediately and I will get rid of it.  </p>
<p>This goes even for links within my posts themselves.  Those too may have once pointed to legitimate sites where the domain names were later taken over by the pornographers.  I have tries to check out all those as well, but such changes are almost impossible to catch without, again, click on each link on  a regular basis.  Not something I have the time to do.  And spam filters don&#8217;t catch <em>those</em> references.  So again, if you click on a past post and go to such a site, report it to me immediately. </p>
<p>However, now that I have pretty much stopped the flow of porn comment spam, I have attracted a new foe.  This one is even more insidious and insistent than my former enemy.   And  my spam filters are also being challenged (and failing miserably) to catch these messages.</p>
<p>Now instead of porn spam I am getting regular attacks of false comments linked back to <strong>Payday Lender sites</strong>!  Part of it is my fault I guess.  A few years back, I wrote in defense of these businesses—contrary to many of my friends and even my pastor and church.   I still would insist that the regulations enforced on these institutions are unfair and perhaps even economically dangerous.</p>
<p>That is, until they targeted this site for their comment spam.  Now I wish we had put them <em>all</em> out of business.  That I guess, is the reward I earned for supporting free enterprise.</p>
<p>I guess I would prefer to have the payday lender spam over the porn comments.  But barely ..just barely.</p>
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		<title>Preterists and the Millennium (Part 2)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 00:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Caine</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Warning: Don’t use this series of posts on the Millennium and Preterism as ammunition against the Preterist (or &#8220;Full Preterist&#8221;) eschatology. As I noted previously, Rev. 20:1-10 presents problems in almost every theology.  We even define the main eschatological theories by these chapters (Pre-Millennial, A-Millennial, and Post-Millennial).  Only Preterism does not have &#8220;Millennial&#8221; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/The_Invasion_Of_Planet_Earth.jpg" alt="COG poster" /></span><strong>Warning:</strong> Don’t use this series of posts on the Millennium and Preterism as ammunition against the Preterist (or &#8220;Full Preterist&#8221;) eschatology. As I noted previously, <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20:1-10" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2591898202', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A1-10&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20:1-10', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A1-10');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A1-10" >Rev. 20:1-10</a> presents problems in almost every theology.  We even define the main eschatological theories by these chapters (Pre-Millennial, A-Millennial, and Post-Millennial).  Only Preterism does not have &#8220;Millennial&#8221; in its name!  No, I write this series not to demean Preterism by any means, but ultimately to strengthen it.</p>
<p>In fact, I regard this series of posts as taking on the best.  The only major chink in the Preterist&#8217;s armor is, in my opinion, their exegesis of these few verses.  As I noted previously, they &#8220;discount&#8221;  the millennium of these verses into a less than 40 year span of time between AD 30 and 67.  In short (pun intended), they are mistaken as to the duration of the Millennium.  In this post I hope to prove they are also mistaken as to the timing the Millennium as well.</p>
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Because Preterism (at least in is most current incarnation) places the Millennium prior to AD 70 and the destruction of Jerusalem, they must accordingly put the events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1574529603', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> <em>before</em> the events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 18" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2404202761', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+18&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66018001.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018001-1&quot;&gt;18:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was made bright with his glory. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he called out with a mighty voice,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018002.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Fallen, fallen is Babylon the great!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;She has become a dwelling place for demons,&lt;br /&gt;a haunt for every unclean spirit,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;a haunt for every unclean bird,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;a haunt for every unclean and detestable beast.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For all nations have drunk&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;fallen by&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the wine of the passion of her sexual immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and the kings of the earth have committed immorality with her,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and the merchants of the earth have grown rich from the power of her luxurious living.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66018004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard another voice from heaven saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018004.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Come out of her, my people,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;lest you take part in her sins,&lt;br /&gt;lest you share in her plagues;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for her sins are heaped high as heaven,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and God has remembered her iniquities.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Pay her back as she herself has paid back others,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and repay her double for her deeds;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;mix a double portion for her in the cup she mixed.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As she glorified herself and lived in luxury,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;so give her a like measure of torment and mourning,&lt;br /&gt;since in her heart she says,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8216;I sit as a queen,&lt;br /&gt;I am no widow,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and mourning I shall never see.&amp;#8217;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For this reason her plagues will come in a single day,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;death and mourning and famine,&lt;br /&gt;and she will be burned up with fire;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;for mighty is the Lord God who has judged her.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66018009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the kings of the earth, who committed sexual immorality and lived in luxury with her, will weep and wail over her when they see the smoke of her burning. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;They will stand far off, in fear of her torment, and say,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018010.13-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Alas! Alas! You great city,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;you mighty city, Babylon!&lt;br /&gt;For in a single hour your judgment has come.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66018011.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the merchants of the earth weep and mourn for her, since no one buys their cargo anymore, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;cargo of gold, silver, jewels, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all kinds of scented wood, all kinds of articles of ivory, all kinds of articles of costly wood, bronze, iron and marble, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;cinnamon, spice, incense, myrrh, frankincense, wine, oil, fine flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and slaves, that is, human souls.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;and slaves, and human lives&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018014.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;The fruit for which your soul longed&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;has gone from you,&lt;br /&gt;and all your delicacies and your splendors&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;are lost to you,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;never to be found again!&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66018015.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The merchants of these wares, who gained wealth from her, will stand far off, in fear of her torment, weeping and mourning aloud,&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018016.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&amp;#8220;Alas, alas, for the great city&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;that was clothed in fine linen,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent-2&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;in purple and scarlet,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;adorned with gold,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent-2&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with jewels, and with pearls!&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For in a single hour all this wealth has been laid waste.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66018017.13-1&quot;&gt;And all shipmasters and seafaring men, sailors and all whose trade is on the sea, stood far off &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and cried out as they saw the smoke of her burning,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018018.12-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;What city was like the great city?&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66018019.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they threw dust on their heads as they wept and mourned, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018019.15-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Alas, alas, for the great city&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;where all who had ships at sea&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;grew rich by her wealth!&lt;br /&gt;For in a single hour she has been laid waste.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Rejoice over her, O heaven,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and you saints and apostles and prophets,&lt;br /&gt;for God has given judgment for you against her!&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66018021.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then a mighty angel took up a stone like a great millstone and threw it into the sea, saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66018021.20-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;So will Babylon the great city be thrown down with violence,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and will be found no more;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the sound of harpists and musicians, of flute players and trumpeters,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;will be heard in you no more,&lt;br /&gt;and a craftsman of any craft&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;will be found in you no more,&lt;br /&gt;and the sound of the mill&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;will be heard in you no more,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the light of a lamp&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;will shine in you no more,&lt;br /&gt;and the voice of bridegroom and bride&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;will be heard in you no more,&lt;br /&gt;for your merchants were the great ones of the earth,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and all nations were deceived by your sorcery.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66018024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and of all who have been slain on earth.&amp;#8221;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;18:3&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;fallen by&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;18:13&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;and slaves, and human lives&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 18', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+18');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+18" >Revelation 18</a> and 19, which they say describe the destruction of that same city.  Accordingly, in this view, Revelation Chapter 20 has to be a recapitulation rather than a continuation of the events in the previous chapters.  Indeed, Preterist <a href="http://www.preteristarchive.com/Hyper/2002_vanwyngaarden_premillennial-preterism.html">Tracy D. VanWyngaarden</a> states baldly in one sentence all the assertions about Preterism and the Millenium that I have made thus far:</p>
<blockquote><p>[O]ne cannot escape the conclusion that “the thousand years” began in connection with the one and only “binding” of Satan, which occurred in connection with Christ’s first advent. Since Jesus clearly bound Satan prior to A.D. 70 (Matt. 12:31; <cite class="bibleref" title="Heb. 2:14" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2836768163', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Hebrews+2%3A14&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p58002014.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v58002014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Heb. 2:14', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Heb.+2%3A14');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Heb.+2%3A14" >Heb. 2:14</a>), and John relates the beginning of the “thousand years” at that time, (<cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20:2" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2818665452', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A2&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020002.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20:2', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A2');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A2" >Rev. 20:2</a>). <strong>it only follows that Johns millennium episode is a recapitulation</strong>. John was looking back to the “things which you have seen” (or, past things). The “thousand year” binding of Satan was therefore among the “things which are” <strong>(the “thousand years“ being virtually identical with the Last Days)</strong>..(Emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>Though I am not going to go into <a href="http://www.preteristcentral.com/Why%20the%20Single%20Millennium%20Model%20Forces%20a%20Futurist%20Eschatology.html">Kurt M. Simmons Two Millennial model</a>, in developing that model, he also promotes the &#8220;recapitulation model&#8221; of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1434002882', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>In other words, the images of <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20:1-10" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2562221715', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A1-10&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20:1-10', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A1-10');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A1-10" >Rev. 20:1-10</a> are not progressive, <strong>but a recapitulation</strong>. There were not three end-time battles, but one; the battle of Gog and Magog is the <em>same</em> battle described elsewhere in Revelation under different symbols.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sam Frost, one of the best exegetical Preterists, also posits that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref3370828580', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> recapitulates rather than progresses past the previous chapters. In his short <a href="http://thereignofchrist.com/essay-on-the-millennium-of-revelation-20/">Essay on the Millennium of Revelation 20</a>, he concludes:</p>
<blockquote><p>I have taken the position from William Hendriksen that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 19:11" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2570749601', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19%3A11&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 19:11', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19%3A11');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19%3A11" >Revelation 19:11</a>-ff occurs at the end of the Millennium, <strong>and is parallel with <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20:7" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2167574123', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A7&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20:7', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A7');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A7" >Revelation 20:7</a>-ff </strong> concerning Gog and Magog. The episode of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20:1-7" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2823396963', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A1-7&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20:1-7', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A1-7');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A1-7" >Revelation 20:1-7</a> does not come after the events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 19:11" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2647686435', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19%3A11&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 19:11', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19%3A11');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19%3A11" >Revelation 19:11</a>-ff. Further, I have taken from other commentators (Gentry and David Chilton included) that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2786082200', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019001-1&quot;&gt;19:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.23-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for his judgments are true and just;&lt;br /&gt;for he has judged the great prostitute&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;who corrupted the earth with her immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.&amp;#8221;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 5&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Once more they cried out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019003.06-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, &amp;#8220;Amen. Hallelujah!&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And from the throne came a voice saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019005.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Praise our God,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all you his servants,&lt;br /&gt;you who fear him,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;small and great.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.37-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;For the Lord our God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Almighty reigns.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let us rejoice and exult&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and give him the glory,&lt;br /&gt;for the marriage of the Lamb has come,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and his Bride has made herself ready;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it was granted her to clothe herself&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with fine linen, bright and pure&amp;#8221;&amp;#8212;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019008.14-1&quot;&gt;for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the angel said&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he said&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to me, &amp;#8220;Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These are the true words of God.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.&amp;#8221; For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He is clothed in a robe dipped in&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;sprinkled with&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, &amp;#8220;Come, gather for the great supper of God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; both small and great.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:2&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:10&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:13&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;sprinkled with&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:18&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19" >Revelation 19</a> <em>was fulfilled in the apocalyptic events of 70 AD. Therefore, the end of Millennial scheme refers to the Great Tribulation period of 66-70 AD. This places the “1000 years” between the advent of Christ’s birth, ministry, death, burial, resurrection, ascension, session, and finally, his fullness in the Parousia (that “God is all in all”). (bold text added for emphasis, italics in original)</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Therefore, for the premier Preterists, the 1000 year Millennium, even as a symbol, is reduced to 36-37 years. It is also assumed to have been initiated at Christ&#8217;s first advent and to have ended before the invasion of Jerusalem, even though the destruction is assumed by these same Preterists to be the subject of Chapter 19 and prior.  Although Frost makes a pretty good case in showing the parallels of the events (readers are strongly recommended to check out his essay), he does not make the case that <em>internally</em> there is an indicator within the test that this recapitulation is occurring.  Indeed, with a general reading it is difficult to read Chapter 20 as anything but a sequential progression from Chapter 19.</p>
<p>Other Preterists do see this discrepancy. For example, in the <a href="http://www.preterist.org/articles-old/q&#038;a.htm">Questions and Comments section at Preterist.org</a>, the following answer is found regarding the question: &#8220;Is there no millennium? Never was, never will be?&#8221;  This answer was written, I assume, by Ed Stevens—also no small name in the Preterist camp.</p>
<blockquote><p>I hope Max King’s suggestion (that the millennium was the period from 30 to 70 AD) is the correct one (it certainly sounds good). The term “thousand years” would then simply refer to the period of time while the kingdom was being built, before God came to judge His enemies. It was a time of completion. Jesus said in <cite class="bibleref" title="Matthew 24" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1306112768', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Matthew+24&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v40024001-1&quot;&gt;24:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Jesus left the temple and was going away, when his disciples came to point out to him the buildings of the temple. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v40024002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But he answered them, &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;You see all these, do you not? Truly, I say to you, there will not be left here one stone upon another that will not be thrown down.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v40024003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, &amp;#8220;Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the close of the age?&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v40024004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And Jesus answered them, &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;See that no one leads you astray.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For many will come in my name, saying, &amp;#8216;I am the Christ,&amp;#8217; and they will lead many astray.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must take place, but the end is not yet.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;All these are but the beginning of the birth pains.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Then they will deliver you up to tribulation and put you to death, and you will be hated by all nations for my name&amp;#8217;s sake.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And then many will fall away&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;stumble&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and betray one another and hate one another.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;But the one who endures to the end will be saved.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;So when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand),&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Let the one who is on the housetop not go down to take what is in his house,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and let the one who is in the field not turn back to take his cloak.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And alas for women who are pregnant and for those who are nursing infants in those days!&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Pray that your flight may not be in winter or on a Sabbath.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And if those days had not been cut short, no human being would be saved. But for the sake of the elect those days will be cut short.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Then if anyone says to you, &amp;#8216;Look, here is the Christ!&amp;#8217; or &amp;#8216;There he is!&amp;#8217; do not believe it.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;See, I have told you beforehand.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;So, if they say to you, &amp;#8216;Look, he is in the wilderness,&amp;#8217; do not go out. If they say, &amp;#8216;Look, he is in the inner rooms,&amp;#8217; do not believe it.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024028-1&quot;&gt;28&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024029-1&quot;&gt;29&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024030-1&quot;&gt;30&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024031-1&quot;&gt;31&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024032-1&quot;&gt;32&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;From the fig tree learn its lesson: as soon as its branch becomes tender and puts out its leaves, you know that summer is near.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024033-1&quot;&gt;33&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;So also, when you see all these things, you know that he is near, at the very gates.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024034-1&quot;&gt;34&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024035-1&quot;&gt;35&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024036-1&quot;&gt;36&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts omit &amp;#8217;nor the Son&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; but the Father only.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024037-1&quot;&gt;37&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024038-1&quot;&gt;38&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024039-1&quot;&gt;39&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024040-1&quot;&gt;40&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Then two men will be in the field; one will be taken and one left.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024041-1&quot;&gt;41&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one left.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024042-1&quot;&gt;42&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024043-1&quot;&gt;43&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024044-1&quot;&gt;44&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024045-1&quot;&gt;45&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Who then is the faithful and wise servant,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;; also verses 46, 48, 50&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; whom his master has set over his household, to give them their food at the proper time?&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024046-1&quot;&gt;46&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Blessed is that servant whom his master will find so doing when he comes.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024047-1&quot;&gt;47&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Truly, I say to you, he will set him over all his possessions.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024048-1&quot;&gt;48&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;But if that wicked servant says to himself, &amp;#8216;My master is delayed,&amp;#8217;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024049-1&quot;&gt;49&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and begins to beat his fellow servants&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and eats and drinks with drunkards,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024050-1&quot;&gt;50&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;the master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v40024051-1&quot;&gt;51&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and will cut him in pieces and put him with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.&lt;/span&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;24:10&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;stumble&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;24:36&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts omit &lt;em&gt;nor the Son&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;24:45&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;; also verses 46, 48, 50&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;24:49&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Matthew 24', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matthew+24');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Matthew+24" >Matthew 24</a> that no man knew the day or the hour. All they could know was that it was getting close, by the signs He told them to watch for. But, I have a hard time totally accepting this theory of the millennium, since the millennium seems to fit in sequentially/chronologically after the events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2342656775', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019001-1&quot;&gt;19:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.23-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for his judgments are true and just;&lt;br /&gt;for he has judged the great prostitute&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;who corrupted the earth with her immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.&amp;#8221;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 5&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Once more they cried out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019003.06-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, &amp;#8220;Amen. Hallelujah!&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And from the throne came a voice saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019005.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Praise our God,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all you his servants,&lt;br /&gt;you who fear him,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;small and great.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.37-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;For the Lord our God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Almighty reigns.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let us rejoice and exult&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and give him the glory,&lt;br /&gt;for the marriage of the Lamb has come,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and his Bride has made herself ready;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it was granted her to clothe herself&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with fine linen, bright and pure&amp;#8221;&amp;#8212;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019008.14-1&quot;&gt;for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the angel said&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he said&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to me, &amp;#8220;Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These are the true words of God.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.&amp;#8221; For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He is clothed in a robe dipped in&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;sprinkled with&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, &amp;#8220;Come, gather for the great supper of God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; both small and great.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:2&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:10&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:13&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;sprinkled with&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:18&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19" >Rev. 19</a> (which are manifestly 70 AD events). Some try to insert a “flash-back” or “recapitulation” early in <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2079837252', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20" >Rev. 20</a> to get around this problem. But, I find that difficult to accept since <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20:3, 4, 10" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1408597078', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A3&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 20:4 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A4&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-2&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 20:10 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A10&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 20:4 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A4&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-2&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 20:10 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A10&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020010.01-3&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-3&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20:3, 4, 10', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A3%2C+4%2C+10');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20%3A3%2C+4%2C+10" >Rev. 20:3, 4, 10</a> mention events that supposedly happened before the millennium started, but which are the kinds of things that were happening during the period 30-70 AD when the millennium was supposedly in progress. If these events WERE 30-70 AD events and DID happen before the millennium started, then it would seem shaky to place the millennium in the period from 30-70 AD.</p></blockquote>
<p>Stevens notes that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref3426301923', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> indeed references many events that were mentioned in previous chapters of the book.  For instance, <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2447180349', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> mentions the mark of the beast, the souls of those beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and the beast and false prophet being in the lake of fire.  However, <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1539025825', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> <em>treats these events in the past tense</em> whereas the previous chapters regard them as occurring in the present tense. This indicates a sequential relationship rather than one of parallel or recapitulation as the majority Preterist position heralds.  </p>
<p>Also, Dr. Duncan McKenzie,  in a post at <a href="http://planetpreterist.com/news-5174.html">PlanetPreterist.com </a>, also makes the case for <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref3230638602', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20" >Rev. 20</a> being a continuation rather than a recapitulation of <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2958945845', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019001-1&quot;&gt;19:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.23-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for his judgments are true and just;&lt;br /&gt;for he has judged the great prostitute&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;who corrupted the earth with her immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.&amp;#8221;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 5&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Once more they cried out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019003.06-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, &amp;#8220;Amen. Hallelujah!&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And from the throne came a voice saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019005.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Praise our God,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all you his servants,&lt;br /&gt;you who fear him,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;small and great.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.37-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;For the Lord our God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Almighty reigns.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let us rejoice and exult&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and give him the glory,&lt;br /&gt;for the marriage of the Lamb has come,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and his Bride has made herself ready;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it was granted her to clothe herself&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with fine linen, bright and pure&amp;#8221;&amp;#8212;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019008.14-1&quot;&gt;for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the angel said&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he said&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to me, &amp;#8220;Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These are the true words of God.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.&amp;#8221; For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He is clothed in a robe dipped in&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;sprinkled with&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, &amp;#8220;Come, gather for the great supper of God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; both small and great.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:2&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:10&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:13&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;sprinkled with&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:18&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19" >Rev. 19</a>.  He notes:</p>
<blockquote><p>One of the first matters to attend to in understanding the millennium is the question of how it fits in sequentially in relation to the rest of Revelation. Is the binding of Satan in <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20:1" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2201764374', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A1&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20:1', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A1');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A1" >Revelation 20:1</a> a continuation of the events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1588598595', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019001-1&quot;&gt;19:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.23-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for his judgments are true and just;&lt;br /&gt;for he has judged the great prostitute&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;who corrupted the earth with her immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.&amp;#8221;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 5&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Once more they cried out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019003.06-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, &amp;#8220;Amen. Hallelujah!&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And from the throne came a voice saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019005.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Praise our God,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all you his servants,&lt;br /&gt;you who fear him,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;small and great.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.37-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;For the Lord our God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Almighty reigns.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let us rejoice and exult&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and give him the glory,&lt;br /&gt;for the marriage of the Lamb has come,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and his Bride has made herself ready;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it was granted her to clothe herself&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with fine linen, bright and pure&amp;#8221;&amp;#8212;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019008.14-1&quot;&gt;for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the angel said&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he said&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to me, &amp;#8220;Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These are the true words of God.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.&amp;#8221; For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He is clothed in a robe dipped in&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;sprinkled with&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, &amp;#8220;Come, gather for the great supper of God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; both small and great.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:2&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:10&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:13&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;sprinkled with&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:18&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19" >Revelation 19</a> (the AD 70 fall of Babylon and the Second Coming) or is there a recapitulation (a going back and restating events that happened earlier)? Some say that there is a recapitulation here, that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1460458900', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> is going back to the time of Pentecost (c. AD 30) or even the beginning of Jesus’ ministry (c. AD 26). My position is that <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2899136163', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> is a continuation of the (AD 70) events of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 19" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2781629664', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;chapter-first&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019001-1&quot;&gt;19:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;After this I heard what seemed to be the loud voice of a great multitude in heaven, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019001.23-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;for his judgments are true and just;&lt;br /&gt;for he has judged the great prostitute&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;who corrupted the earth with her immorality,&lt;br /&gt;and has avenged on her the blood of his servants.&amp;#8221;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 5&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019003.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Once more they cried out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019003.06-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;The smoke from her goes up forever and ever.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God who was seated on the throne, saying, &amp;#8220;Amen. Hallelujah!&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And from the throne came a voice saying,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019005.09-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Praise our God,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;all you his servants,&lt;br /&gt;you who fear him,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;small and great.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I heard what seemed to be the voice of a great multitude, like the roar of many waters and like the sound of mighty peals of thunder, crying out,&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;block-indent&quot;&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;line-group&quot; id=&quot;p66019006.37-1&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Hallelujah!&lt;br /&gt;For the Lord our God&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;the Almighty reigns.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let us rejoice and exult&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and give him the glory,&lt;br /&gt;for the marriage of the Lamb has come,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;and his Bride has made herself ready;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;it was granted her to clothe herself&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;indent&quot;&gt;&lt;/span&gt;with fine linen, bright and pure&amp;#8221;&amp;#8212;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p class=&quot;same-paragraph&quot; id=&quot;p66019008.14-1&quot;&gt;for the fine linen is the righteous deeds of the saints.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019009.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the angel said&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he said&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to me, &amp;#8220;Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the marriage supper of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These are the true words of God.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I fell down at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God.&amp;#8221; For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He is clothed in a robe dipped in&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;sprinkled with&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66019017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and with a loud voice he called to all the birds that fly directly overhead, &amp;#8220;Come, gather for the great supper of God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of captains, the flesh of mighty men, the flesh of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all men, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; both small and great.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth with their armies gathered to make war against him who was sitting on the horse and against his army. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the rest were slain by the sword that came from the mouth of him who was sitting on the horse, and all the birds were gorged with their flesh.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:2&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 5&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he said&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:10&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:13&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;sprinkled with&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:18&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 19', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+19" >Revelation 19</a>, not a recapitulation to the time around AD 30….</p>
<p>Notice the sequence in Revelation19-20. The individual beast and false prophet (the one who made people take the mark of the beast <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 13:11-18" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1359229008', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+13%3A11-18&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66013011.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw another beast rising out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb and it spoke like a dragon. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It exercises all the authority of the first beast in its presence,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and makes the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound was healed. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on behalf of&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;616&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;13:12&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;13:14&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on behalf of&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;13:16&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;13:18&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;616&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 13:11-18', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+13%3A11-18');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+13%3A11-18" >Rev. 13:11-18</a>) are captured at the Second Coming in chapter 19 and put in the lake of fire. Satan is then taken and thrown in the abyss as the kingdom is established in chapter 20. Those who had lost their lives for not taking the mark of the beast (cf. <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 19:20; 13:15-16" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref3007926851', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+19%3A20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66019020.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 13:15-16 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+13%3A15-16&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66019020.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66019020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;on its behalf&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; had done the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 13:15-16 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+13%3A15-16&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66013015.01-2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013015-2&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And it was allowed to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast might even speak and might cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be slain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66013016-2&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to be marked on the right hand or the forehead,  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;19:20&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;on its behalf&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;13:16&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 19:20; 13:15-16', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19%3A20%3B+13%3A15-16');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+19%3A20%3B+13%3A15-16" >Rev. 19:20; 13:15-16</a>) are then resurrected in <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20:4" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1774653434', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A4&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20:4', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A4');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20%3A4" >Revelation 20:4</a> at the beginning of the millennium. God was letting His first century audience know that the one who was faithful to Him to the point of death (cf. <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 2:10-11" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2373909440', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+2%3A10-11&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66002010.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Do not fear what you are about to suffer. Behold, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and for ten days you will have tribulation. Be faithful unto death, and I will give you the crown of life.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. The one who conquers will not be hurt by the second death.&amp;#8217;&lt;/span&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 2:10-11', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+2%3A10-11');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+2%3A10-11" >Rev. 2:10-11</a>) would still get to participate in the soon coming millennial reign (<cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 2:25-27; 3:21" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1726428932', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+2%3A25-27&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66002025.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Only hold fast what you have until I come.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 3:21 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+3%3A21&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66002025.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;Only hold fast what you have until I come.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations,&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66002027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;h2&gt;Revelation 3:21 &lt;small class=&quot;audio&quot;&gt;(&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+3%3A21&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/h2&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;esv-text&quot;&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66003021.01-2&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66003021-2&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.&lt;/span&gt;  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 2:25-27; 3:21', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+2%3A25-27%3B+3%3A21');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+2%3A25-27%3B+3%3A21" >Rev. 2:25-27; 3:21</a>).</p>
<p>Notice the reference to the mark of the beast as a past event in both chapter 19 and 20. <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1870904673', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> is a continuation of the AD 70 narrative of the Second Coming not a recapitulation to AD 30.</p></blockquote>
<p>So in summary, though some of the parallels are striking (Sam Frost almost convinces me), the best reading of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1487000959', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> appears to me—at least at the present time—to be describing the state of the world <em>after</em> the destruction of the Temple and the Old Covenant system and not before it.  However, this assertion then leaves open the nature of the Millennium and its relationship to the chapters after <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2021480481', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20" >Rev. 20</a>.  </p>
<p>To that subject I will return in a subsequent post.  Stay tuned.  </p>
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		<title>Joshua&#8217;s People 6/23/10</title>
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<p>Two more to go, and then I will have my surprise.  A 25 year old surprise. but a surprise none-the-less!</p>
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		<title>Preterists in the Millennial Arena</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My last post discussed problems with the current (and historic for that matter) expositions of Revelation Chapter 20.  I noted how the fact that there remains nations in need of, and receiving, healing from the New Jerusalem in Revelation Chapter 21 places that city outside the confines of eternity (which by definition is past [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/boxing-punch2.jpg" alt="knockout punch" /></span>My <a href="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/2010/06/06/the-millennial-mess/">last post</a> discussed problems with the current (and historic for that matter) expositions of Revelation Chapter 20.  I noted how the fact that there remains nations in need of, and receiving, healing from the New Jerusalem in Revelation Chapter 21 places that city outside the confines of eternity (which by definition is <em>past</em> the point of healing).  So the various premillennial schemes, including the rather recent newcomer—Dispensationalism, fall by the wayside.  At best they could only posit that the Millennium would be only stage one in a two stage earthly existence where mortals remain on the earth.  I have heard no leader in that faction declare such a eschatological sequence.</p>
<p>Though in the varieties of theologies out there, perhaps someone has.  If readers are aware of such a proposed premillennial process please let me know and send me the references, links, or literary sources.</p>
<p>However, my concentration is going to be on what is, in my opinion, <strong>the strongest contender in the prophecetic boxing ring today: Full Preterism</strong>.  However, as I noted before, their interpretation of the Millennium is their soft underbelly that invites a one-two punch attack.   In their schema, the Millennial rule of Christ supposedly starts at the ascension and ends just prior to the Jewish Revolt of A.D. 67 or before.  As a result, their 1,000 year reign gets discounted to less than 37.  That calculates to a discount of over 96%.  You couldn&#8217;t get a deal like that on eBay!</p>
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Nor am I the only one to notice this weakness.  Keith Mathison made this very point (perhaps his <em>only</em> good argument, in his contribution to the anti-Preterist diatribe, <em><strong><a href="http://www.amazon.com/When-Shall-These-Things-Hyper-Preterism/dp/0875525520/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1276123362&#038;sr=8-1">When Shall These Things Be: A Reformed Response to Hyper-Preterism</a></strong></em>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The most serious problem is that their [the Preterists'] &#8216;Millennium&#8217; is too short…Full preterists chide futurists for not taking seriously biblical language that denotes a short period of time…However, whether literal or figurative, &#8220;a thousand years&#8221; denotes a vast period of time. To suggest that &#8220;a thousand years&#8221; is symbolic of one generation of 40 years or less, I believe, stretches credulity to its breaking point. …I would suggest that &#8220;comprehensive preterists,&#8221; with their doctrine of the millennium, are not taking seriously enough Biblical language which clearly indicates a long period of time. I believe this is nothing but hermeneutical arbitrariness. We must take all time frame indicators seriously, those that point to short periods of time and those that point to long periods of time. (pg. 241)</p></blockquote>
<p>Though I hate to side with Mathison against the Preterists, the fact that the Preterists make the 1,000 year reign of Christ last less than 40, is a problem. Nor is Mathison alone finding this glaring weakness.  <a href= http://www.beyondtheendtimes.com/writing/book_reviews/critique_kc_review_balyeat.html">In his website</a>, Joseph R. Balyeat (author of <em><strong><a href=" http://www.amazon.com/Babylon-Revelation-Joseph-R-Balyeat/dp/0925591408/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1276219607&#038;sr=8-1">Babylon: the Great City of Revelation</a></strong></em>) also rather gleefully sends an uppercut to this same interpretive issue:</p>
<blockquote><p>[I]t seems to me that full preterism at times suffers from the same chronological blindness which preterists are so quick to criticize futurists for. I agree with you that it is quite ridiculous for futurists to claim that “soon” means 2,000 years and “the time is at hand” means 2 millennia. Yet, elsewhere in the book of Revelation (chapter 20), we read about events which were not to happen “soon”, but rather “at the end of 1,000 years”. These events include: the release of Satan for a short time to gather the remaining ungodly from the dark corners of the earth; the final judgment and second death of the wicked, etc. While I agree that the 1,000 years was not meant to be literal, it certainly does indicate a very long period of time. Yet the full preterist position argues that even these events were fulfilled in A.D. 70 or shortly thereafter (i.e., the Bar Kochba rebellion in A.D. 135). “Consistent” preterists become very in-consistent when they rail on futurists for saying “soon could mean 2,000 years”, while they themselves say “1,000 years could mean soon”. Are the time indicators relevant or aren’t they?</p></blockquote>
<p>So how do the Preterists defend themselves on this hermeneutical problem without falling on the ropes?  How do they support their contention that 1,000 years can be compressed into 37?  To their credit, at least they don&#8217;t ignore the issue hope it goes away. I quote from <a href="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/2010/06/02/review-reading-the-bible-through-new-covenant-eyes-by-alan-bondar/">Alan Bondar</a>&#8217;s book, <strong><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reading-Bible-Through-Covenant-Eyes/dp/1448984289/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1276124166&#038;sr=8-1">Reading the Bible Through New Covenant Eyes</a></em></strong>.  Building on Mathison&#8217;s admission that the number 1,000 is used symbolically, Bondar then notes..</p>
<blockquote><p>If &#8220;a thousand&#8221; is to be taken figuratively, then why must the work &#8220;years&#8221; be taken literally?  In other words, couldn&#8217;t it be just as well that John is not defining a literal period of time at all, whether it is actually one thousand exactly or a longer period of time?  John could just as well be figuratively describing the perfect accomplishments of Christ that no earthly king could possibly accomplish.  In fact, if &#8220;the figure…is the number of quantitative perfection,&#8221; then John is figuratively defining the prefect reign rather than a length of time….The thousand-year reign of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2002804688', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> is not about how long Christ would reign with His saints.  The thousand-year reign of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1755013540', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a> is about what would be perfectly accomplished during those forty years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, no.  If it is a symbol of <em>quantitative</em> perfection, as Bondar admits, then it must remain a <em>quantitative</em> symbol.  It should not then be changed to a <em>qualitative</em> symbol.  That is switching the category of the ultimate meaning of the symbol midstream.</p>
<p>At least the full preterist, Kenneth J. Davies, in his response to Mathison, maintains the 1,000 years of the Millennum as a <em>quantitative</em> symbol.  In his post, entitled rather inflammatorily, <a href="http://www.preterist.org/articles/mathisons_false_witness.asp"><em>A Response to the False Witness of Keith Mathison: as Found in His Presentation Named Playing With Fire</em></a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The period from AD 30-70 is too short a time period to fit the symbol of &#8220;1,000 years&#8221; found in <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref3005991983', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20" >Rev. 20</a>, according to Mr. Mathison. It seems that to more than double the number of years this symbol represents is perfectly acceptable to Mathison, but not to &#8220;shorten&#8221; it!</p></blockquote>
<p>Well, yes.   Again, I have to agree with Mathison.  For those in the first century and not in our inflationary times, a &#8220;thousand&#8221; was a very large number.  Most people would not live to see a thousand of <em>anything</em> in their presence.  Barring the main city of Jerusalem, the other major cities barely would have 1,000 residents.   Even the title of the rather popular collection 1,001 Arabian Nights, published much later than the first century A.D. kept this association.  <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/the-book-of-one-thousand-and-one-nights">According to one reviewer</a> &#8220;At first the title was merely indicative <strong>of a large number</strong> of stories; later editors dutifully provided editions with the requisite 1,001 tales.&#8221;</p>
<p>So does a 40 year, from A.D. 30 to A.D. 70  or the 37 year period from 30 to 67 meet the definition <strong>of a large number</strong> of years?  Does it seem reasonable to use a symbol of 1,000 years to represent this number?  It simply has to represent a larger number than a 37 or 40 year period.   A perfect number, certainly; at symbolic number, admittedly; but a larger number of years than 40, necessarily!</p>
<p>If the Preterists hold on to this interpretation, then time statements of any kind, their beloved &#8220;soon&#8221; passages, especially as they are referenced within this same &#8220;symbolic&#8221; book, also fall into the black hole of meaninglessness.   They will be knocked right out of the Prophetic Arena because of their Millennial glass jaws.  They will, like the line from <strong><em><a href=" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0047296/ ">On The Waterfront</a></em></strong>, be taken out of the Prophetic ring, only to declare to anyone who would bother to listen, &#8220;I coulda been a contender. I coulda been somebody, instead of a bum, which is what I am..&#8221;</p>
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		<title>The Millennial Mess</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last Lectures are the in thing right now.   A book entitled The Last Lecture by Randy Pausch was a runaway hit on Amazon.  At my old college, some brave professors participated in a program called “The Last Lecture Series.”  In this series, they were to give a lecture to those attending [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/nakedbeforegod.jpg" alt="Naked Before God: The Return of the Lost Disciple" /></span>Last Lectures are the in thing right now.   A book entitled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Last-Lecture-Randy-Pausch/dp/B002QOZ6LQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1275683921&#038;sr=8-2"><em><strong>The Last Lecture</strong></em></a> by Randy Pausch was a runaway hit on Amazon.  At my old college, some brave professors participated in a program called “The Last Lecture Series.”  In this series, they were to give a lecture to those attending as if it were their last.  The goal was to have the teachers give information to their students that they always wanted to say, but were too afraid of the consequences to utter.</p>
<p>In his book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Naked-Before-God-Return-Disciple/dp/0819218782/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1275684048&#038;sr=8-2"><strong><em>Naked Before God: The Return of the Broken Disciple</em></strong></a>, Bill Williams give his equivalent of “the last lecture.”  Williams, a CF patient, died soon after the book was published in 1988.  In the book, he merges past and present as his counterpart—Nathaniel the disciple, also dying of CF—interacts with Jesus and the other apostles.  Since neither Nathaniel nor Williams has much to lose, they ask the hard questions and make the even harder observations.</p>
<p>One of them was something that has also bothered me for quiet some time: <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 20-21" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1743507605', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20-21&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021001.08-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021001-1&quot;&gt;21:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, &amp;#8220;Behold, the dwelling place&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;tabernacle&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;peoples&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and God himself will be with them as their God.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts omit &amp;#8217;as their God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021005.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he who was seated on the throne said, &amp;#8220;Behold, I am making all things new.&amp;#8221; Also he said, &amp;#8220;Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he said to me, &amp;#8220;It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021009.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, &amp;#8220;Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed&amp;#8212; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021015.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The city lies foursquare, its length the same as its width. And he measured the city with his rod, 12,000 stadia.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;About 1,380 miles; a &amp;#8217;stadion&amp;#8217; was about 607 feet or 185 meters&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Its length and width and height are equal. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He also measured its wall, 144 cubits&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f7&quot; id=&quot;b7&quot; title=&quot;A &amp;#8217;cubit&amp;#8217; was about 18 inches or 45 centimeters&quot;&gt;[7]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; by human measurement, which is also an angel&amp;#8217;s measurement. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, clear as glass. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, transparent as glass.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021022.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and its gates will never be shut by day&amp;#8212;and there will be no night there. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;They will bring into it the glory and the honor of the nations. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb&amp;#8217;s book of life.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;tabernacle&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;peoples&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts omit &lt;em&gt;as their God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:16&lt;/span&gt; About 1,380 miles; a &lt;em&gt;stadion&lt;/em&gt; was about 607 feet or 185 meters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b7&quot; id=&quot;f7&quot;&gt;[7]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:17&lt;/span&gt; A &lt;em&gt;cubit&lt;/em&gt; was about 18 inches or 45 centimeters&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 20-21', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20-21');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+20-21" >Rev. 20-21</a>, the relationship between the Millennium and the New Jerusalem that come after.  As Williams notes (pgs 57-8), if the New Jerusalem represents Heaven or Eternity, why is there healing still going on?</p>
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<blockquote><p>Then he showed me the sparkling river of the water of life, clear as crystal.  It flowed from the throne of God and Lamb, down the middle of the great street of the city.  On either side stood a tree of life, yielding twelve crops of fruit, one for each month of the year; and the leaves of the trees are for the healing of the nations. (<em><cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 22:1-2" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2491310684', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+22%3A1-2&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66022001.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022001-1&quot;&gt;22:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then the angel&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;the Lamb. In the midst of the street of the city, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:2&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;the Lamb. In the midst of the street of the city, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 22:1-2', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+22%3A1-2');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+22%3A1-2" >Revelation 22:1-2</a>)</p>
<p>[jesus speaking to Nathaniel] “Now I ask you: what are the leaves for, if the nations that can reach them are already healed?”</em></p></blockquote>
<p>When you combine that question with issues dealing with the Millennium and the whole eschatological edifice falls to pieces.  In short, if the New Jerusalem is heaven, as it commonly interpreted, or after the resurrection from the dead and the judgment, then who is left to be healed? In all of the more popular interpretations, once the New Jerusalem is in place, all the bad guys are in the lake of fire and all the saints are in translated and glorified bodies.</p>
<p>This assertion is true for classic Premillennialism, Dispensationalism, Amillennialism, and even Postmillenialism.  All of these theories assume that <cite class="bibleref" title="Rev. 21-22" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2099743485', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+21-22&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66021001.08-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021001-1&quot;&gt;21:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and the sea was no more. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, &amp;#8220;Behold, the dwelling place&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;tabernacle&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of God is with man. He will dwell with them, and they will be his people,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;peoples&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and God himself will be with them as their God.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts omit &amp;#8217;as their God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021005.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he who was seated on the throne said, &amp;#8220;Behold, I am making all things new.&amp;#8221; Also he said, &amp;#8220;Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he said to me, &amp;#8220;It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the spring of the water of life without payment. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The one who conquers will have this heritage, and I will be his God and he will be my son. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021009.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then came one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues and spoke to me, saying, &amp;#8220;Come, I will show you the Bride, the wife of the Lamb.&amp;#8221; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great, high mountain, and showed me the holy city Jerusalem coming down out of heaven from God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;having the glory of God, its radiance like a most rare jewel, like a jasper, clear as crystal. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;It had a great, high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and on the gates the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel were inscribed&amp;#8212; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;on the east three gates, on the north three gates, on the south three gates, and on the west three gates. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021015.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the one who spoke with me had a measuring rod of gold to measure the city and its gates and walls. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The city lies foursquare, its length the same as its width. And he measured the city with his rod, 12,000 stadia.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;About 1,380 miles; a &amp;#8217;stadion&amp;#8217; was about 607 feet or 185 meters&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Its length and width and height are equal. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He also measured its wall, 144 cubits&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;A &amp;#8217;cubit&amp;#8217; was about 18 inches or 45 centimeters&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; by human measurement, which is also an angel&amp;#8217;s measurement. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The wall was built of jasper, while the city was pure gold, clear as glass. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The foundations of the wall of the city were adorned with every kind of jewel. The first was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;the fifth onyx, the sixth carnelian, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth chrysoprase, the eleventh jacinth, the twelfth amethyst. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the twelve gates were twelve pearls, each of the gates made of a single pearl, and the street of the city was pure gold, transparent as glass.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66021022.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021022-1&quot;&gt;22&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw no temple in the city, for its temple is the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021023-1&quot;&gt;23&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the city has no need of sun or moon to shine on it, for the glory of God gives it light, and its lamp is the Lamb. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021024-1&quot;&gt;24&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;By its light will the nations walk, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021025-1&quot;&gt;25&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and its gates will never be shut by day&amp;#8212;and there will be no night there. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021026-1&quot;&gt;26&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;They will bring into it the glory and the honor of the nations. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66021027-1&quot;&gt;27&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But nothing unclean will ever enter it, nor anyone who does what is detestable or false, but only those who are written in the Lamb&amp;#8217;s book of life.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022001.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022001-1&quot;&gt;22:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then the angel&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; showed me the river of the water of life, bright as crystal, flowing from the throne of God and of the Lamb &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;through the middle of the street of the city; also, on either side of the river, the tree of life&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f7&quot; id=&quot;b7&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;the Lamb. In the midst of the street of the city, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[7]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with its twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit each month. The leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;No longer will there be anything accursed, but the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and his servants&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f8&quot; id=&quot;b8&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;bondservants&amp;#8217;; also verse 6&quot;&gt;[8]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; will worship him. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;They will see his face, and his name will be on their foreheads. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And night will be no more. They will need no light of lamp or sun, for the Lord God will be their light, and they will reign forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022006.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he said to me, &amp;#8220;These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022007.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66022007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;And behold, I am coming soon. Blessed is the one who keeps the words of the prophecy of this book.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022008.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw them, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed them to me, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;but he said to me, &amp;#8220;You must not do that! I am a fellow servant&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f9&quot; id=&quot;b9&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fellow bondservant&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[9]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; with you and your brothers the prophets, and with those who keep the words of this book. Worship God.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022010.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he said to me, &amp;#8220;Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022012.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66022012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done.&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66022013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022014.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed are those who wash their robes,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f10&quot; id=&quot;b10&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;do his commandments&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[10]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022016.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num woc&quot; id=&quot;v66022016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022017.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The Spirit and the Bride say, &amp;#8220;Come.&amp;#8221; And let the one who hears say, &amp;#8220;Come.&amp;#8221; And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022018.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022019-1&quot;&gt;19&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022020.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022020-1&quot;&gt;20&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;He who testifies to these things says, &lt;span class=&quot;woc&quot;&gt;&amp;#8220;Surely I am coming soon.&amp;#8221;&lt;/span&gt; Amen. Come, Lord Jesus!&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66022021.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66022021-1&quot;&gt;21&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f11&quot; id=&quot;b11&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;all the saints&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[11]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Amen.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;tabernacle&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;peoples&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:3&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts omit &lt;em&gt;as their God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:16&lt;/span&gt; About 1,380 miles; a &lt;em&gt;stadion&lt;/em&gt; was about 607 feet or 185 meters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;21:17&lt;/span&gt; A &lt;em&gt;cubit&lt;/em&gt; was about 18 inches or 45 centimeters&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b7&quot; id=&quot;f7&quot;&gt;[7]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:2&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;the Lamb. In the midst of the street of the city, and on either side of the river, was the tree of life&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b8&quot; id=&quot;f8&quot;&gt;[8]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:3&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;bondservants&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b9&quot; id=&quot;f9&quot;&gt;[9]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:9&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fellow bondservant&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b10&quot; id=&quot;f10&quot;&gt;[10]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:14&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;do his commandments&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b11&quot; id=&quot;f11&quot;&gt;[11]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;22:21&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;all the saints&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev. 21-22', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+21-22');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev.+21-22" >Rev. 21-22</a> represents a future event, a time when Heaven and Earth merge together and God has put everything, as N. T. Wright states, to rights.  They may disagree on the nature of the Millennium (<cite class="bibleref" title="Rev 20:1-7" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2292125788', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20%3A1-7&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Rev 20:1-7', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev+20%3A1-7');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Rev+20%3A1-7" >Rev 20:1-7</a>), but all of the positions agree that after the Millennium comes the Judgment and then eternity.</p>
<p>Williams question blasts that assumption to bits. In the process, he blasts all four Millennial positions to bits as well. If there are people who need healing, then whatever the time of the New Jerusalem is, it is not Heaven and it is not Eternity.  At least it cannot be Heaven or Eternity as writers in those positions use the terms.. </p>
<p>Even a bigger issue is the recipients of the healing leaves from New Jerusalem.  Just who are the “nations” or “ethnic groups” for whom the leaves are produced?  Not those in Hell, unless you believe in redemption from Hell after death (any takers?).  Certainly not those in Heaven, who are &#8220;healed&#8221; by definition already. </p>
<p>And if the New Jerusalem is not eternity or heaven, then just what is the millennium in Revelation? Only in the idealist/preterist viewpoint does this verse begin to make sense, in as much as those two schemes do not make Revelation future but implemented at the A.D. 70 destruction of Jerusalem.</p>
<p>But even that august Eschatology has issues.  As I noted in <a href="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/2010/06/02/review-reading-the-bible-through-new-covenant-eyes-by-alan-bondar/">my last post</a>, the Preterists assume that the second coming happened in A.D. 70 with the destruction of Jerusalem and we are not in the eternal messianic kingdom.  </p>
<p>So where does the 1,000 year reign of Christ fit in?  After all, a chronological reading of Revelation has the Millenium happening AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem/Babylon depicted in chapter 19.   Yet the millennium is not an eternal age, lasting 1,000 years with an explicit terminus of Satan&#8217;s destruction in the Lake of Fire.  Yet many if not most Preterists claim this even <b>also</b> happened at A.D. 70.</p>
<p>So what is this millennium of which John speaks.  The Preterists claim chapter 20 is a re-capitulation of the previous chapters, in <a href="http://www.preteristcosmos.com/question5.html#note89">essence being identical with the period after Christ&#8217;s resurrection to just before the Jewish War of A.D. 67-70.</a>  Alan Bondar&#8217;s book, <strong><em><a href="http://www.publishamerica.net/product90410.html">Reading the Bible Through New Testament Eyes</a></em></strong>, makes much the same assertion.</p>
<p>So the 1,000 year Millenium lasts less than 37 years.   And if you read them carefully, the years A.D. 30 to 67/70 are also referenced as &#8220;the Last Days.&#8221;  So in this position, 1,000 years and Last Days are symbols that reference an identical period of time.  Now I agree symbols are flexible, but I think this identify stretches beyond my person endurance.  One obviously gives the impression of a short period of time (last days) and the other a period somewhat longer (1,000 years).  </p>
<p>At least a more honest Preterist is the author of the website <a href="http://prophecyhistory.com/">Prophecyhistory.com>/a>. He places the millennium as the actual 1,000 year period after the destruction of Jerusalem. The problem is that nothing of real significance happened in A.D. 1070. The author sites the occupation of Jerusalem by the Seljuk Turks.  Frankly I don&#8217;t think that was so earth shattering as the Lord&#8217;s pre-occupation with Jerusalem was over in A.D. 70.   Also, the author agrees, as he does not see Satan&#8217;s destruction until the start of the Protestant Reformation.  So Satan&#8217;s &#8220;short&#8221; release was a period of time almost half as long as the Millenium (1070-around 1517).  Again, this assertion stretches the language a bit, even for symbolism.</p>
<p>Curiously, the Catholic Preterist, Maurice Williams, in </a><a href="http://www.amazon.com/REVELATION-FALL-JUDEA-RISE-CHURCH/dp/0595484298/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1275686184&#038;sr=8-1"><strong><em>Revelation: Fall of Judea, Rise of the Church</em></strong></a> makes the millennium  date from the fall of Rome to the Start of the Reformation.  In his view, Satan&#8217;s release was the cause of the Reformation and not his destruction.  </p>
<p>So I guess it depends on which side of the Protestant/Catholic fence you sit that determines the nature of the millennium and its dating. Not the best example of exegesis, I would think.</p>
<p>I would prefer to get my exegesis from within the text of the Scriptures themselves.  Here I think the Book of Revelation will give us a better key.  After all, John expected his audience to be wise, but he did expect them to understand.   If <i>they</i> can, with some work, we should as well.  </p>
<p>And it should be a result that satisfies both a Millennial rule of Christ, the underlying meaning/impression built into the symbolic language, and the situation where nations remain healed by leaves from the New Jerusalem.  Perhaps if I can find such an integration, Bill Williams&#8217; last questions will not have been in vain.</p>
<p>Stay Tuned.</p>
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		<title>Review: Reading the Bible Through New Covenant Eyes by Alan Bondar</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan Bondar&#8217;s first book is a good primer volume that presents the full Preterist interpretation of New Testament prophecy. For those not familiar with the position, it asserts that all of the prophecies of the New Testament (and a good portion of those in the Old) were fulfilled in the first century (preterist, basically being [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/newcovenanteyes.jpg" alt="Reading the Bible Through New Covenant Eyes" /></span>Alan Bondar&#8217;s first book is a good primer volume that presents the full Preterist interpretation of New Testament prophecy. For those not familiar with the position, it asserts that all of the prophecies of the New Testament (and a good portion of those in the Old) were fulfilled in the first century (preterist, basically being the Latin term for &#8220;past&#8221;).  For the full preterist, these prophecies include what is commonly called the Second Coming of Christ, which they claim was fulfilled &#8220;invisibly&#8221; or &#8220;symbolically&#8221; in the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple in A.D. 70.  For them, there is no more &#8220;second coming&#8221; in our future.  We are in the full Messianic Era, the New Heavens and Earth, now!</p>
<p>Bondar did not come to this position easily.  In fact, according to his acknowledgements, he was converted to this position during the course of writing this book.  </p>
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<blockquote><p>The first three chapters of this book were the contents of that original, incomplete manuscript.  My intention was to help people learn to read the Bible in context.  I had a totally different direction in mind for the rest of the book.  But as I began to put my own words into practice, I realized that my intended conclusions for the rest of the book were not being drawn from my prescribed method of reading the Bible</p></blockquote>
<p>That change in direction is the strength and weakness of the book.  As a strength, it has helped in create a good and fairly non-technical introduction to the arguments in favor of this Eschatology.  But the weakness remains that these first three chapters need some expansion, as I think they are critical to Bondar&#8217;s position.  It appears that Bondar rushed past them to get to the &#8220;good stuff&#8221; of presenting and defending Full Preterism.  For the record, these three propositions  are:</p>
<p>•	The Bible was written to a particular audience<br />
•	The Bible was written in a particular time<br />
•	The Bible was written for our joy</p>
<p>I agree wholeheartedly with these three statements.  But they are not drawn out nearly as much as I think they should be.  If they are the base of his methodology, then they deserve more than the few pages they are given.  For example, since, as Bondar claims—and I agree—most readers assume that he Bible was written directly to them, some of the techniques for breaking this engrained mental pattern should be presented.  Accordingly, it is imperative when reading Paul to identify to whom his pronouns apply.  Sometimes &#8220;we&#8221; may be the Apostles, sometimes it is Paul and his companions, sometimes it is the Jews, sometimes it is the entire church.  If we assume &#8220;we&#8221; (pun intended) is always all Christians at all times, a misunderstanding of Paul is going to be the inevitable result.  Indeed, Bondar uses this process in pages 213-218 when discussing <cite class="bibleref" title="2 Corinthians 3" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref1290576462', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=2+Corinthians+3&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p47003001.06-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003001-1&quot;&gt;3:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some do, letters of recommendation to you, or from you? &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;You yourselves are our letter of recommendation, written on our&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;your&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; hearts, to be known and read by all. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And you show that you are a letter from Christ delivered by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;fleshly hearts&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p47003004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Such is the confidence that we have through Christ toward God. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Not that we are sufficient in ourselves to claim anything as coming from us, but our sufficiency is from God, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;who has made us competent&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f3&quot; id=&quot;b3&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;sufficient&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to be ministers of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit. For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p47003007.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses&amp;#8217; face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p47003012.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003016-1&quot;&gt;16&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;But when one&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f4&quot; id=&quot;b4&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;he&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003017-1&quot;&gt;17&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Now the Lord&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f5&quot; id=&quot;b5&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;this Lord&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v47003018-1&quot;&gt;18&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord,&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f6&quot; id=&quot;b6&quot; title=&quot;Or &amp;#8217;reflecting the glory of the Lord&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:2&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;your&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:3&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;fleshly hearts&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b3&quot; id=&quot;f3&quot;&gt;[3]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:6&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;sufficient&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b4&quot; id=&quot;f4&quot;&gt;[4]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:16&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;he&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b5&quot; id=&quot;f5&quot;&gt;[5]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:17&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;this Lord&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b6&quot; id=&quot;f6&quot;&gt;[6]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;3:18&lt;/span&gt; Or &lt;em&gt;reflecting the glory of the Lord&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  '2 Corinthians 3', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Corinthians+3');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=2+Corinthians+3" >2 Corinthians 3</a> and 4.  But it comes out of the blue.  Though perhaps natural to Bondar, this methodology should have been explained in the first chapter.  After all, it helps define exactly who is &#8220;the particular audience.&#8221;</p>
<p>Second, though the methodology of Bondar&#8217;s three statements led him to full Preterism, it is not clearly explained  <i>how</i>!  I think a new section transitioning to his defense of full Preterism is in order.  I assume the time references to all the prophecies (soon, about to come, etc.) when combined with recognizing the first century audience receiving these words <i>was a first century audience</i> would make Bondar&#8217;s case.  Indeed, Alan may even say this is obvious.  I would say, to the audience intended for this book—those not familiar with the position—this transition needs better clarification.  I would put such a defense between the first three chapters and Bondar&#8217;s later expounding of Full Preterism.  In short, take the reader by the hand and help him learn the basic strokes before pushing them headfirst into the Preterist pool.</p>
<p>All that said, I think Bondar&#8217;s book fills a much need gap for those who wish to discuss full Preterism, or at least explore the position.  It is, as I said, a good introduction to the position that still gives some pretty weighty exposition and exegesis of the Scriptures should the reader wish to go deeper.  Certainly it is much more &#8220;newbie&#8221; friendly than, say the works of Don Preston and some others in the Preterist camp.  </p>
<p>In terms of its convincing ability, I cannot say as I am pretty much a full Preterist myself.  My only hesitations are the more common Preterist interpretations of the Millenium of <cite class="bibleref" title="Revelation 20" style="display: none;"></cite><a  class="tippy_link" onmouseover="domTip_toolText('bref2304683050', '&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/share/audio/smil?passage=Revelation+20&quot;&gt;Listen&lt;/a&gt;&lt;p id=&quot;p66020001.04-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;chapter-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020001-1&quot;&gt;20:1&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, holding in his hand the key to the bottomless pit&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f1&quot; id=&quot;b1&quot; title=&quot;Greek &amp;#8217;the abyss&amp;#8217;; also verse 3&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and a great chain. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020002-1&quot;&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020003-1&quot;&gt;3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020004.01-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020004-1&quot;&gt;4&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom the authority to judge was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020005-1&quot;&gt;5&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020006-1&quot;&gt;6&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Blessed and holy is the one who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and they will reign with him for a thousand years.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020007.05-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020007-1&quot;&gt;7&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And when the thousand years are ended, Satan will be released from his prison &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020008-1&quot;&gt;8&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and will come out to deceive the nations that are at the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them for battle; their number is like the sand of the sea. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020009-1&quot;&gt;9&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And they marched up over the broad plain of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, but fire came down from heaven&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href=&quot;#f2&quot; id=&quot;b2&quot; title=&quot;Some manuscripts &amp;#8217;from God, out of heaven&amp;#8217;, or &amp;#8217;out of heaven from God&amp;#8217;&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and consumed them, &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020010-1&quot;&gt;10&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p id=&quot;p66020011.07-1&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020011-1&quot;&gt;11&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. From his presence earth and sky fled away, and no place was found for them. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020012-1&quot;&gt;12&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020013-1&quot;&gt;13&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead who were in them, and they were judged, each one of them, according to what they had done. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020014-1&quot;&gt;14&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;Then Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death, the lake of fire. &lt;span class=&quot;verse-num&quot; id=&quot;v66020015-1&quot;&gt;15&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;And if anyone&amp;#8217;s name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.  (&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.esv.org&quot; class=&quot;copyright&quot;&gt;ESV&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;footnotes&quot;&gt;&lt;h3&gt;Footnotes&lt;/h3&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b1&quot; id=&quot;f1&quot;&gt;[1]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:1&lt;/span&gt; Greek &lt;em&gt;the abyss&lt;/em&gt;; also verse 3&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;footnote&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#b2&quot; id=&quot;f2&quot;&gt;[2]&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class=&quot;footnote-ref&quot;&gt;20:9&lt;/span&gt; Some manuscripts &lt;em&gt;from God, out of heaven&lt;/em&gt;, or &lt;em&gt;out of heaven from God&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;',  'Revelation 20', 'http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20');" onmouseout="domTip_clearTip('false')" href="http://www.gnpcb.org/esv/search/?q=Revelation+20" >Revelation 20</a>, their assertion that the New Covenant Age—and therefore the planet Earth—will last for eternity, and some measure of Gnostic rejection of the value of the physical creation over the a spiritualized existence in heaven.  Nor are these explicit requirements of this eschatology, as Sam Frost—another full preterist—has noted them himself.</p>
<p>Overall, with these few criticisms aside, this is an excellent book.  Its defense appears cogent and complete.  Also, Bondar writes without the rancor one often finds in this camp against &#8220;the futurists.&#8221;  He is a gracious as well as a persuasive writer.  Those looking to investigate Full Preterism could not find a better introductory volume.  It is readable and enjoyable.  I look forward to his next book.</p>
<p><strong><em>Reading the Bible Through New Covenant Eyes</em></strong> can be ordered <a href="http://www.publishamerica.net/product90410.html">here</a>.  Note that the price varies as sometimes the publisher offers deals without notice.  Also be aware that the book may take some time to be shipped—almost six weeks in my case—as it appears the publisher does a printing based on demand rather than doing a full run up front. </p>
<p>However, it is worth the wait.  Well worth the wait.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I have nothing much against Atheists as a rule.  In the final analysis, they have enough trouble justifying much of anything they say.  After all, if God or an ultimate reason does not exist behind the physical world, then all we have left is personal opinion, theirs and ours.  And who [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/dawkins.jpg" alt="Richard Dawkins" /></span>Now I have nothing much against Atheists as a rule.  In the final analysis, they have enough trouble justifying much of anything they say.  After all, if God or an ultimate reason does not exist behind the physical world, then all we have left is personal opinion, theirs and ours.  And who cares what <em>your</em> opinion is anyway?  Atheism, in order to justify any action, has to resort to force in order to make their personal opinion worth anything beyond themselves.  After all, it is &#8220;just their opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or as the ultimate Atheist, Chairman Mao said, &#8220;Morality comes at the barrel of a gun.&#8221;  Yep, that&#8217;s all that is left for atheism.</p>
<p>Yet the new atheists write books, do lectures and debates in order to convince the world to drop God from their vocabulary and their lives.  I don&#8217;t read or listen much.  &#8220;It&#8217;s just their opinion.&#8221;  I also take N.T. Wright&#8217;s word on the matter, that the books are just incredibly boring.</p>
<p>Still, life takes some interesting turns. Now the prominent atheist, Richard Dawkins <a href="http://seanrobsville.blogspot.com/2010/04/buddhists-dawkins-and-gays-worried-by.html#comments">is having second thoughts</a>; maybe not about God, but about the desirability of a culture without God: or at least a certain God among the mix.  Says Dawkins, regarding the decreasing influence of Christianity in Europe, and Britain in particular:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are no Christians, as far as I know, blowing up buildings. I am not aware of any Christian suicide bombers. I am not aware of any major Christian denomination that believes the penalty for apostasy is death. I have mixed feelings about the decline of Christianity, in so far as Christianity might be a bulwark against something worse.</p></blockquote>
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<p>It is really kind of (tragically) funny.  For the last few decades, Europe was exactly the kind of culture in which Dawkins would have reveled.  Despite having an established church (or perhaps because of it), the laws became increasingly pluralistic and the people became more and more secular and&#8211;dare we say it&#8211;atheistic.</p>
<p>Yet, this without-God culture was not without a price.  Hope, generally a byproduct of a belief in a beneficial Deity, withered.  As a consequence, the European existence became more concentrated in the pleasures of the present instead.  This left little room for such future oriented pursuits (and present oriented sacrifice) as the creation of families and the propagation and raising of children.</p>
<p>As the columnist Spengler often notes, this leads to a shrinking population, until it can no longer support a substructure.  The culture becomes one of death.</p>
<blockquote><p>A sick cat or dog will crawl into a hole to die. The members of sick cultures do not do anything quite so dramatic, but they cease to have children, dull their senses with alcohol and drugs, become despondent, and too frequently do away with themselves. This is not due to an inborn death-drive, contrary to the odious Freud, but rather a symptom of a culture&#8217;s mortal illness.</p></blockquote>
<p>Therefore, to ward off the death of their society (and to pay for the &#8220;social security&#8221; of the bulging mass of retirees who did not have enough children to pay for their own pensions), the culture opens itself up to immigration. From where else can the worker base be increased enough to provide the necessary tax base to pay for the nation to sustain itself?</p>
<p>Europe brought in Muslim groups, who in the economies of Europe, found a hope in the future (<a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/KB24Ak02.html">unlike in their own homelands</a>).  With that hope, came children&#8211;large numbers of them.  So much so that the population shift, unless something changes drastically&#8211;such as massive Muslim conversions to Christianity&#8211;the trend is inevitable.  </p>
<p>As Spengler <a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/front_page/ED08Aa01.html">often quips</a>, &#8220;In 200 years, French and German will be spoken exclusively in hell.&#8221;  As Mark Stein noted in his book, <a href=:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_Alone">America Alone: The End of the World as We Know It</a>, the demographics of Europe indicate that the Muslims will be the majority group in Europe in 50 years.  Already they are a strong influence.  Per Stein:</p>
<blockquote><p>But in the same three decades as Ulster&#8217;s &#8220;Troubles,&#8221; &#8230;large Muslim populations settled in parts of Europe that had little or no experience of mass immigration&#8230;On the Continent and elsewhere in the West, native populations are aging and fading and being supplanted remorselessly by a young Muslim demographic&#8230;Of course, not all Muslims support terrorists &#8212; though enough of them share their basic objectives(the wish to live under Islamic law in Europe and North America)to function wittingly or otherwise as the &#8220;good cop&#8221; end of an Islamic good cop/bad cop routine.</p></blockquote>
<p>In 2008, when Maclean&#8217;s magazine printed the chapter that contained the above quote, they were promptly sued by the Canadian Human Rights Commission.  </p>
<p>What a difference two years makes.  What Stein and Maclean&#8217;s were sued for, now Dawkins warns against openly.  Europe, having abandoned its Christian roots, became an atheist and pluralistic state.  As such, it was helpless before Muslims&#8217; more stalwart (and fertile) population.   Now even the Bishop of England declares that Shariah Law in Britain is now &#8220;<a href="http://rupeenews.com/2008/02/08/shariah-law-in-britian-unavoidable-bishop-williams-common-law-magna-carta-imported-from-muslim-spain-america-is-the-most-shariah-complaint-country-in-the-world/">unavoidable</a>.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Church in Europe and History may not have been perfect, but now even Hawkins notes that what may replace it will be worse.</p>
<p>Too bad he never said that in his books.</p>
<p>So I expect Hawkins, in order to enhance Europe and the survival of Western Culture will cancel his future debates and speeches.  Certainly he will pull his books off the shelves and contribute his past profits to the cathedrals and churches in Europe to help them remain that &#8220;bulwark against something worse.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not!</p>
<p>After all, its only his opinion. Hawkins goes the new atheists one better in that opinion does not carry any weight even with himself.  </p>
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		<title>Joshua&#8217;s People 4/15/10</title>
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However, once they are all finished I will have a bit of a surprise for everyone.
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<p>Well, there aren&#8217;t very many left.  But I figured I had better make certain these all get posted.   Hope you enjoy them.</p>
<p>However, once they are all finished I will have a bit of a surprise for everyone.</p>
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		<title>Déjà Vu To You, Too!</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Déjà vu:  The ultimate &#8220;been there, done that.&#8221;  For most people, déjà vu is a feeling, an uncanny impression that you have been in a place before, or met someone before, or generally been in a certain situation before; although you have no current recollection of it.  It has been the rather [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="padding: 10px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 18pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; float: left; font-family: times,serif; color: brown;"><img src="http://www.wanderingheretic.com/wp-images/less_judgement_more_tolerance.jpg" alt="button" /></span>Déjà vu:  The ultimate &#8220;been there, done that.&#8221;  For most people, déjà vu is a feeling, an uncanny impression that you have been in a place before, or met someone before, or generally been in a certain situation before; although you have no current recollection of it.  It has been the rather tenuous basis for a belief in reincarnation or other psychic phenomenon.  Some would say it <bold>is</bold> a psychic phenomenon.  According to Emile Boirac, the guy who coined the term in an essay he wrote as a graduate student, &#8220;the experience of déjà vu is usually accompanied by a compelling sense of familiarity, and also a sense of &#8216;eeriness&#8217;, &#8217;strangeness&#8217;, or &#8216;weirdness&#8217;.&#8221;</p>
<p>For most people déjà vu is a experiential. For most people.  Not for me.</p>
<p>For me, déjà vu is intellectual; or perhaps, literary.  Concepts and ideas from books I read stay stored in the compounds of my memory (sometimes to exact pages).  Then something I currently read retrieves the memory and beads it together in the present to make a philosophical pearl necklace.  </p>
<p>For example, the first science fiction novel I ever read I picked out of a box at a garage sale when I was about 14 years old and bought for a dime.  It was Robert A. Heinlein&#8217;s <i><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Stranger-Strange-Land-Robert-Heinlein/dp/B000C7BRHG/ref=sr_1_31?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1271126609&#038;sr=8-31"><strong>Stranger in a Strange Land</strong></a></i>.  I had no idea of its later cult status.  I picked it up because the cover &#8220;looked neat.&#8221;  (Hey, I was 13!) However, it rapidly became my favorite book.   If nothing else, it taught me to question the unnamed presuppositions of our culture.</p>
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<p>One of the quotes that burned itself into my now decreasingly effective brain cells was the following:</p>
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<blockquote>&#8216;Grok&#8217; means all of these. It means &#8216;fear,&#8217; it means &#8216;love,&#8217; it means &#8216;hate&#8217;&#8211;proper hate, for by the Martian &#8216;map&#8217; you cannot hate anything unless you grok it, understand it so thoroughly that you merge with it and it merges with you&#8211;then you can hate.  By hating yourself. But this implies that you love it, too, and cherish it and would not have it otherwise. Then you can hate&#8211;and (I think) Martian hate is an emotion so black that the nearest human equivalent could only be called mild distaste.</p></blockquote>
<p>That literary bead was retrieved once when I was reading Bruce Malina and Richard Rohrbaugh&#8217;s book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Social-Science-Commentary-Synoptic-Gospels-Malina/dp/0800634918/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1271126524&#038;sr=8-1"><strong>Social Science Commentary on the Synoptic Gospels</strong></a>.  The section of the book that caught my eye discussed the concepts of love and hate in first century Mediterranean culture:</p>
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<blockquote>The term &#8220;love,&#8221; for example, is best translated &#8220;group attachment, attachment to some person.&#8221;…Correspondingly, &#8220;hate&#8221; would mean &#8220;disattachment, nonattachment, <strong>indifference</strong>.&#8221; (Page 180, emphasis added)</p></blockquote>
<p>So in the Middle Eastern culture of Jesus, to hate did not necessarily mean to be actively against someone.  In fact, it often meant the opposite.   A person who was hated in the Middle East was not even considered worth the effort to be engaged at any level.   It was not that you had negative emotions; you had no emotions at all toward them.  </p>
<p>One can see this in Jesus&#8217; reactions to the Pharisees as opposed to the Sadducees.   Modern readers assume that Jesus hated the Pharisees due to his frequent and angry encounters with them.  At the same time, they assume he was less angry with the Sadducees since there are few recorded words that Jesus had with these groups outside of his trial.</p>
<p>However, the opposite is the case.  Jesus argued with the Pharisees mostly because they were the closest in the First Century Jewish factions to his own beliefs.  They believed in the more expanded cannon of the Hebrew Scriptures than did the Sadducees. They also believed in angels, demons, and most importantly, the resurrection from the dead.  Jesus argued with them over their interpretations of the Law and the books of Moses, but did not dispute their authority or their value of these documents.  In short, to Jesus, the Pharisees were worth the effort to engage in verbal debate and argumentation.</p>
<p>Not so the Sadducees. Jesus low regard for this group, his hatred for their betrayal of the Land and its people, made him indifferent of them as a group.  He left them, one could say abandoned them, to their fate.  Like the Martians in the Heinlein quote, his hatred was &#8220;an emotion so black that the nearest human equivalent could only be called mild distaste.&#8221;  They were hated with such a black hatred that they were not even worth the time it would take to argue with them.</p>
<p>Which brings me to the last bead on the necklace.  I was reading in Mark Galli&#8217;s book, <a href=" http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Mean-Wild-Unexpected-Untamable/dp/0801071577/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1271129137&#038;sr=8-1"><strong>Jesus Mean and Wild: The Unexpected Love of an Untamable God</strong></a>, when I came across the following:</p>
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<blockquote>We often confuse patience and tolerance.  But between them lies an eternity of difference.  To tolerate others you don&#8217;t have to agree with them; you don&#8217;t have to like them.  You simply allow them to exist unmolested, to peacefully coexist with you.  You respect their personal choices and refrain from imposing your personal choices on them.  If you seek to convince others that their choices are morally wrong, harmful, or even evil, and that your choice is morally right and good—well, you are considered insensitive, intolerant, and unloving.</p></blockquote>
<p>In short, to be &#8220;tolerant&#8221; is to be <strong>indifferent</strong> to the moral choices and behavior of others.  It is to be so unconcerned about them as to deem their actions not worthy of an argument.  At best, again, their actions, and they themselves, are only worth on an emotional scale an attitude of &#8220;mild distaste.&#8221;  </p>
<p>In the culture of Jesus (and probably, if we admit it, in ours) to &#8220;be tolerant&#8221; is little different than to &#8220;hate.&#8221;  We don&#8217;t value the person enough to even disagree or argue with them.  Like the judgment of God, we &#8220;give them over&#8221; to the consequences of their actions without a fight. Such is the way of tolerance.   We don&#8217;t attach ourselves to others because we have devalued them to little more than the widow&#8217;s mite.  Our tolerance hides the small, miserly way in which we love (attach ourselves to) others.</p>
<p>One could say tolerance has become our modern society&#8217;s highest virtue.  If true, than to Jesus and his contemporaries, our society has made a virtue out of hatred.   </p>
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